I started to wear them duck hunting, because I was sick of ringing ears and wanted something that I could use to hear the wings of the ducks (sometimes they are sneaky- Dive bomber teal). [–]georgep357 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children). My vote is for 270. Since you plan to hunt western when possible I recommend the .300 WM. [–]blackhawk905Georgia 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children). Please click the above links to take a look at all of the .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum ammo we have in stock and ready to ship, and let us know any parting thoughts in the comment section below. Both of those are popular cartridges for elk where I'm at, but I've noticed that the guys who tend to really cover ground and go farther in than most usually have a standard caliber like 270, 30-06, or 308 with a fairly basic setup. Depending on the intensity of the noise (dB) and your personal ear physiology it can only take one or a few shots to cause hearing loss. Normally I ask everyone what they plan on hunting, but with the the .30-06 you can do it, at all reasonable hunting ranges. How much are you going to need to practice to get comfortable shooting your firearm? 300 Win Mag.300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. I feel that - even though whitetail will be my primary game - I know the 300 win mag is the more appropriate caliber for the hunts I hope to accomplish, but man I just really don't want to dislike shooting it. You can do more meat damage with a 150 gr Berger VLD in .270 than a 200 gr Softpoint in .300 win. I also like a lighter weight rifle and I realize that would affect muzzle lift, kind of a catch-22. If you want to drop whitetail at 900 yards and plan on regularly hunting brown bear, go with the .300. My dad shot this on some public land in Brookville. [–]fishing_poleMichigan[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child). Its also going to generate almost 50% more recoil. There are several solutions to the recoil. The "game ears" allow you to hear outside and filter out noise above 85 db. As others have mentioned there are several ways to abate recoil. Learning his patterns and figuring out what winds made him do what. .270 vs 300 win mag for an all-purpose big game rifle. The 300 win is a better choice at extended ranges, but the .270 is cheaper to shoot. But I wanted to address one of OPs main concerns in the recoil with muzzle breaks something I know about. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and should not be used to make precise predictions of the trajectory, performance, or true ballistics of any particular .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum or .300 Winchester Magnum rounds for hunting, target shooting, plinking, or any other usage. Generally speaking, the higher the muzzle energy, the higher the stopping power. I shoot a light weight 7mm Mag with a muzzle brake. When comparing two loads with identical bullets (Hornady’s 145-grain Precision Hunter ELD-X), the .270 WSM is 130 fps faster than the .270 Win. However in many parts of the west the .270 Winchester is the more popular with hunters. I'm buyin a new rifle. [–]blackhawk905Georgia 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children). Where I'm at in Georgia we don't have enough time to do all that but if you're somewhere that's wide open that's not a bad idea. I like to cover ground, run ridges, still hunt timber, and tbh I'm not a good enough shot to take advantage of the extra range or handle the recoil well. Killed November 16,2019 with a .243 at 7:35 am. [–]blackhawk905Georgia 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (14 children), [–]IDontBelieveInIsms 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children), I meant for range days while sighting in. [–]one8sevennWyoming 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). If you use a polymer tip like a vmax or an amax you will be picking shrapnel from your meat for ages. [–]kabong3 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children). Recoil doesn't bother me so much as muzzle lift. I just don't know how bad it will be. These animals are not bulletproof. Can't say I was ever sure about the decision though. You can wear them in the stand, it's an option. It’s still something to think about even if you do have a lot of experience. Practice putting in/on your protection and then placing a shot where you want it too. I can wear them throughout or put them in when I need too. The only animal I would hesitate to chase with a -06 is an Alaskan Brown bear. Furthermore, the muzzle energy of a .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum round averages out to 3170 ft-lb, while a .300 Winchester Magnum round averages out to about 3520 ft-lb. After you lose your hearing you can never get them back. A 400 yards as long as you are not shooting a bowling ball (.30-30 or .45-70) the differences between most rifle calibers are minimal when sited in at 200 yards. As far as shooting goes, I enjoy shooting a lightweight .270 (similar weight to the Weatherby rifle you're looking at), for around 20-30 shots when it's t-shirt weather. The Remington 700 SPS .270 Win proves itself to be one of the best .270 rifles in the business. [–]Meifu 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children). Posts: 35,211. I cannot decide. So, the .300 is going to make a lot more power throughout the flight of the bullet. bullet by using a 130gr in a .270. A good recoil pad is going to help for sure. Personally, I think that the .300 Win Mag is a little bit too much for whitetail deer hunting...in most situations anyway. I use a 25-06 and a .338 as my main battery after selling off my .300 Win Mags but I'm looking to fund a custom .300 WSM. Trust me I protect my ears whenever I can now, I didn't while doing drumline in highschool and I've got perpetual ringing in my ears now. [–]IDontBelieveInIsms 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children). If you have the confidence that practice and good marksmanship brings and you're comfortable with your gun, you'll put the bullet in the right spot. Other mitigating factors are a heavier rifle, lighter bullet, a properly fit stock, good form, and heavier clothing. Does it even make a difference at less than 400 yards? Pick whichever fits your style of hunting better. I'll look into them but I don't think I'll get any soon, I shoot while hunting maybe once or twice a season and I'm also in college still so money is tight. Does the extra speed of the .300 magnums matter under 400 yds? It can be really difficult to track a bear, so a little bigger bullet hole can help. So pretty much right between the .270 and the .300 WM. If you're worried about recoil get a competent gunsmith to thread the barrel and order an APA Little Bastard Gen 2 or a Gen 1 and have the 'smith time the break. .270 vs 300 win mag for an all-purpose big game rifle. I use a .300 winmag on Irish red deer . I have that rifle in .270 and it is fantastic. The .300 Win Mag, or a .300 WSM would be a good second rifle. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. But using 180g softpoint and a suppressor or a break its a good clean fast kill. If you want something that will stand out as one of the longest-lasting rifles you’ll ever own, you may want to consider giving this one a closer look. I guess what I am trying to say is either will do, I well placed shot with almost any calibre and you are in good shape, unless you have game with thick skin... people hunt bear with pistols and bows... either rifle you choose will work for the game you will be hunting. un saludo:sniper Will the 300 win mag just decimate a whitetail? The .30-06 is one of if not the best North American big game cartridge out there. I appreciate you taking the time to do the analysis and your insight. With the popularity of the round, you will be able to tailor your ammunition to whatever animal you want to pursue. The .270 Winchester has a significantly longer case length (2.54″ vs 2.015″) as well as overall length (3.34″ vs 2.81 For the record, the kick on the 7mm is already pretty hard. The risk of permanent hearing damage with one shot from pretty much any center fire hunting round without ear pro or a suppressor is very real period. I hunt mostly whitetail, but my buddy and I are going on a bear hunt in Idaho next year. True .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum ballistics information can vary widely from the displayed information, and it is important to understand that the particular characteristics of a given round can make a substantive difference in its true performance. Re: 300 win mag o 7mm Mensaje por tapin » 31 Oct 2011 17:09 hola ,yo me quedo con el 7 mm rem mag,( ante la "aparente" similitud de ambos calibres), me quedo con el retroceso mas docil del 7 mm rem mag. [–]IDontBelieveInIsms 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children), No I am getting downvoted for some reason. again if my averege shot was 250-500 meters I would probably lean towards the magnum but for me a normal shot is 50-150 meters so for me it's just unnessesary noise,recoil and potential meatloss. I do not hunt with ear protection, [–]blackhawk905Georgia 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children). The comparison between a .300 Win Mag vs .30-06 cartridge involves considering the following factors – 1. I'm a smaller framed female shooter. Once I'm out of school and if I start hunting more I'll definitely look into getting them, I just don't shoot enough during the hunting season to justify them currently. Interestingly, when looking at more rounds, we see that the .270 Win takes a pretty big leap over the .308 Win. Because I like big calibres. The 300 ruins more meat, but shot placement makes a bigger difference than the cartridge for meat loss. Just put a limbsaver on it and buy a .300. is still less than 2 inches. from all i have seen of the .270 I would not hesitate to use it on large game out to 300 meters. Again, the above is for comparative information purposes only, and you should consult the exact ballistics for the particular .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum or .300 Winchester Magnum cartridge you're looking at purchasing. [–]IDontBelieveInIsms 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). I've used mine on 150lb deer and a 530 lb black bear (one shot). Not knocking anyone's style or anything, just what I've seen. 20 ft lbs is generally considered the upper limit of what the average hunter can withstand without developing a recoil induced flinch. I have a 300 wby, and a 270. If the Limbsaver is not enough then you can look at muzzlebrakes as others have suggested. Looking at the recoil of the .300 Win Mag vs .300 WSM is important for understanding certain situations that you might favor one over the other. I know people with hearing loss and it is the same story of "if I knew what I know now, I would have protected my hearing". I look at the 300 win mag as a 30-06 on the steroids. The decision for which round is better for a given application should be made with complete information, and this article simply serves as a comparative guide, not the final say. is being read as simply "whichever you decide. As illustrated in the chart, .270 WSM Winchester Short Magnum rounds - on average - achieve a velocity of about 3240 feet per second (fps) while .300 Winchester Magnum rounds travel at a velocity of 3030 fps. [–]Medic7816Michigan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children). He has a heavy automatic, so the recoil isn't bad (to me). No way around that. After many days in the sticks, I finally had the right opportunity at my first archery buck! my vote is for the .300 win mag and get a muzzle brake, I hunted years with mine without a brake. My only advice was that a muzzle break makes a .270 and a .300 win mag kick about the same and a set of ear plugs will leave you hearing good and feeling fine after sighting in, [–]blackhawk905Georgia 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children). We already know that the .270 Win rounds have a smaller diameter than the .30 cal cartridge and when we added in more rounds, they contained quite a … Friend is wanting to buy an elk rifle, since he's inheriting family property where elk … The .300 Win Mag firing a 190 gr ABLR bullet 2314 fps and 2260 ft lbs at the quarter mile mark. That was my only advice. I haven't shot any game with either caliber but ive shot moose,boar and roedeer with 6,5x55, .30-06 and 9,3x57. 300 win $35/per 20 & 270 25/per 20. [–]Double_Damn_Son 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child). The .300 win mag is too much boomstick for a first-time hunting rifle. Are you already familiar with shooting rifles? What you want ziggieireIreland 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago ( 1 child ) this for all types big. Range hunting caliber but ive shot moose, boar and roedeer with 6,5x55,.30-06 and 9,3x57 selecting between over. With either caliber but ive shot moose, boar and roedeer with 6,5x55, and. 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